Apple iPhone 8 Plus vs HTC U11 vs Huawei Mate 10 vs Huawei Mate 10 Pro: Comparison

Comparison of features, performance, design, battery, camera and connectivity between the following smartphones: Apple iPhone 8 Plus vs HTC U11 vs Huawei Mate 10 vs Huawei Mate 10 Pro. The complete information of specifications to decide which to buy.

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Apple iPhone 8 PlusApple iPhone 8 PlusGlobal · 3GB · 64GB
HTC U11HTC U11Global · 4GB · 64GB
Huawei Mate 10Huawei Mate 10Global · 4GB · 64GB · L29
Huawei Mate 10 ProHuawei Mate 10 ProGlobal · 6GB · 128GB · L29
Technical data sheets

Basics
Apple iPhone 8 Plus
Apple iPhone 8 Plus
Global · 3GB · 64GB
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HTC U11
HTC U11
Global · 4GB · 64GB
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Huawei Mate 10
Huawei Mate 10
Global · 4GB · 64GB · L29
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Huawei Mate 10 Pro
Huawei Mate 10 Pro
Global · 6GB · 128GB · L29
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Score
Ki Cost-effective
Score		 7.7 Ki Cost-effective
Score 		7.0 Ki Cost-effective
Score 		7.3 Ki Cost-effective
Score 		7.4 Ki Cost-effective
Score
Design and Screen score 6.0Design & Materials 6.0Design & Materials 6.2Design & Materials 6.5Design & Materials
Performance and Hardware score 6.6Performance & Hardware 5.0Performance & Hardware 5.6Performance & Hardware 5.4Performance & Hardware
Camera score 7.3Camera 6.4Camera 6.5Camera 6.6Camera
Connectivity score 6.9 Connectivity 6.8 Connectivity 7.5 Connectivity 7.3 Connectivity
Battery score 4.9 Battery 4.7 Battery 5.2 Battery 5.2 Battery

User reviews
User score
8.5
57 reviews
9.4
21 reviews
9.4
68 reviews
9.3
62 reviews

Technical specifications of the Apple iPhone 8 Plus vs HTC U11 vs Huawei Mate 10 vs Huawei Mate 10 Pro

Specs Apple iPhone 8 Plus price compare Apple iPhone 8 Plus
Global · 3GB · 64GB 		where to buy HTC U11 HTC U11
Global · 4GB · 64GB 		where to buy Huawei Mate 10 Huawei Mate 10
Global · 4GB · 64GB · L29 		where to buy Huawei Mate 10 Pro Huawei Mate 10 Pro
Global · 6GB · 128GB · L29
Inches 5.5" 5.5" 5.9" 6"
Resolution FHD QHD QHD FHD+
Usable surface 67% useful 71% useful 82% useful 80% useful
Aspect Ratio 16:9 16:9 16:9 18:9
Dimensions 78.1 mm
158.4 mm
7.5 mm 		75.9 mm
153.9 mm
7.9 mm 		77.8 mm
150.5 mm
8.2 mm 		74.5 mm
154.2 mm
7.9 mm
Weight 202 g 169 g 186 g 178 g
Micro A11
Hexa-Core 		SnapD. 835
Octa-Core 		Kirin 970
Octa-Core 		Kirin 970
Octa-Core
RAM 3 GB RAM 4 GB RAM 4 GB RAM 6 GB RAM
Storage 64 GB 64 GB 64 GB 128 GB
AnTuTu 597.749
v10 		214.000
v7 		253.600
v8 		253.220
v8
Battery 2675 mAh 3000 mAh 4000 mAh 4000 mAh
Main Camera 1
12 Mpx · ƒ/1.8
iSight Duo Camera (8)
2 		1
12 Mpx · ƒ/1.7
IMX362 Exmor RS
1
12 Mpx · ƒ/1.6

2 		1
12 Mpx · ƒ/1.6

2
Selfie Camera SELF 7.2 Mpx · ƒ/2.2 SELF 16.3 Mpx · ƒ/-- SELF 8 Mpx · ƒ/2.0 SELF 8 Mpx · ƒ/2.0
Bands
OS iOS 16 Android 7.0 Nougat Android 10 Q Android 8.0 Oreo

Brand
Brand Apple HTC Huawei Huawei
Aliases A1897, A1905 -- -- BLA-L09, BLA-L29

Release Date
Release date September 2017,
6 years ago 		May 2017,
6 years ago 		October 2017,
6 years ago 		October 2017,
6 years ago
State On Sale On Sale On Sale On Sale
Market Global Global Global Global

Design & Materials

Structure

Apple iPhone 8 Plus
HTC U11
Huawei Mate 10
Huawei Mate 10 Pro
Apple iPhone 8 Plus
HTC U11
Huawei Mate 10
Huawei Mate 10 Pro
Size
78.1 mm • 158.4 mm • 7.5 mm
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 Print 3D Model
75.9 mm • 153.9 mm • 7.9 mm
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 Print 3D Model
77.8 mm • 150.5 mm • 8.2 mm
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 Print 3D Model
74.5 mm • 154.2 mm • 7.9 mm
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 Print 3D Model
Weight 202 g 169 g 186 g 178 g
Usable surface 67 % 71 % 82 % 80 %
Materials Aluminium alloy Aluminium alloy Aluminium alloy, Metal Aluminium alloy
Resistance IP67 IP67 IP53 IP67
Colors
Gold

Silver

Gray
Black

White

Blue

Red
Black

Brown
Blue

Gray

Brown

Screen
Diagonal 5.5" 5.5" 5.9" 6"
Type LCD IPS LCD IPS LCD IPS Oled
Aspect Ratio 16:9 16:9 16:9 18:9
Resolution FHD
1080 x 1920 px 		QHD
1440 x 2560 px 		QHD
1440 x 2560 px 		FHD+
1080 x 2160 px
Density 401 Pixels per inch 534 Pixels per inch 498 Pixels per inch 402 Pixels per inch

Others

Others
  • Without Notch
  • Brightnes 625 cd/m² (typ)
  • 1300:1 contrast ratio
  • Retina HD display
  • LED Notifications
  • Scratch resistant
  • Ion-strengthtened glass
  • Capacitive
  • Multi-touch
  • Oleophobic (lipophobic) coating
  • Force Touch
  • Without Notch
  • Color LED Notifications
  • Scratch resistant
  • Corning Gorilla Glass 5
  • Capacitive
  • Multi-touch
  • Without Notch
  • Brightnes 700 cd/m² (typ)
  • 1500:1 contrast ratio
  • HDR10
  • NTSC
  • 96% NTSC
  • LED Notifications
  • Scratch resistant
  • 2.5D curved glass screen
  • Corning Gorilla Glass 4
  • Capacitive
  • Multi-touch
  • Frameless
  • Without Notch
  • 70000:1 contrast ratio
  • HDR10
  • NTSC
  • LED Notifications
  • Scratch resistant
  • Corning Gorilla Glass
  • Capacitive
  • Multi-touch

User reviews

Is it a drop-resistant and scratch-resistant smartphone?
6.9
6.6
8.6
8.8
Do you think it's a nice phone?
8.8
9.2
9.4
9.5
Is it comfortable?
8.1
9.5
9.0
9.3
Can you see it well in the sunlight?
8.4
9.4
9.2
9.0
Number of reviews
57 reviews
21 reviews
68 reviews
62 reviews

Performance & Hardware

Processor
Model Apple A11 Bionic Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 Huawei HiSilicon KIRIN 970 Huawei HiSilicon KIRIN 970
CPU 2x ARMv8-A 2.38 GHz + 4x energy-efficient cores 4x Kryo 280 2.45 GHz + 4x Kryo 280 1.9 GHz 4x Cortex-A73 2.4 GHz + 4x Cortex-A53 1.8 GHz 4x Cortex-A73 2.4 GHz + 4x Cortex-A53 1.8 GHz
Type Hexa-Core Octa-Core Octa-Core Octa-Core
Manufacturing 10 nm 10 nm 10 nm 10 nm
64 Bits Yes Yes Yes Yes

Graphics
GPU Apple 3-core graphics processing unit + M11 motion Qualcomm Adreno 540 ARM Mali-G72 MP12 ARM Mali-G72 MP12

RAM
RAM 3 GB 4 GB 4 GB 6 GB
Type LPDDR4 RAM -- LPDDR4X RAM LPDDR4X RAM

Antutu
Score
597.749
Antutu v10
Overall performance better than 80% of devices
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214.000
Antutu v7
Overall performance better than 59% of devices
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253.600
Antutu v8
Overall performance better than 63% of devices
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253.220
Antutu v8
Overall performance better than 63% of devices
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Storage
Capacity 64 GB 64 GB 64 GB 128 GB
Type -- -- -- --
SD Slot No Yes ,
Independent SD slot 		Yes ,
Slot for SD or second SIM card 		No

Security
Fingerprint Yes, on the front Yes, on the front Yes, on the front Yes, in the back

Sensors
Sensors
  • Fingerprint
  • Proximity
  • Light sensor
  • Accelerometer
  • Compass
  • Gyroscope
  • Barometer
  • Fingerprint
  • Proximity
  • Light sensor
  • Accelerometer
  • Compass
  • Gyroscope
  • Fingerprint
  • Proximity
  • Light sensor
  • Accelerometer
  • Compass
  • Gyroscope
  • Gravity
  • Hall
  • Magnetometer
  • Pedometer
  • Fingerprint
  • Proximity
  • Light sensor
  • Accelerometer
  • Compass
  • Gyroscope
  • Barometer
  • Hall

Audio

Audio
-
-
-
-

Others
Notifications LED LED Notifications Color LED Notifications LED Notifications LED Notifications
Cooling system No No No No
Gaming buttons No No No No

User reviews

Does it have good sound?
8.7
9.6
9.2
8.7
Does it work smoothly in everyday use?
9.1
9.7
9.6
9.6
What's your experience been with demanding games?
9.2
9.4
9.3
9.2
Number of reviews
57 reviews
21 reviews
68 reviews
62 reviews

Camera

Main
No. of cameras Double rear camera Rear camera Double rear camera Double rear camera
1
Camera type

Standard

Standard

Standard

Standard
Resolution 12 Mpx 12 Mpx 12 Mpx 12 Mpx
Sensor Apple iSight Duo Camera (8) Sony IMX362 Exmor RS Unknown Unknown
Type CMOS BSI CMOS BSI CMOS BSI CMOS BSI
Aperture ƒ/ 1.8 ƒ/ 1.7 ƒ/ 1.6 ƒ/ 1.6
ISO -- 100 - 3200 -- 100 - 3200
Pixel size 1.20 µm 1.40 µm -- --
Pixel Binning -- -- -- --
Sensor size 1/3" 1/2.55" -- --
2
Camera type

Telephoto + portrait
--

Black & white

Black & white
Resolution
12 Mpx
20 Mpx
20 Mpx
Sensor
Unknown
Unknown
Unknown
Type
--
--
--
Aperture
ƒ/ 2.4
ƒ/ 1.6
ƒ/ 1.6
Pixel size
--
--
--
Pixel Binning
--
--
--
Sensor size
--
--
--

Features
Flash Quad LED LED Dual LED Dual LED
Optical Stabilisation Yes Yes Yes Yes
Slow Motion Video Yes,
240 fps 		Yes,
120 fps 		Yes,
120 fps 		Yes,
120 fps
Others
  • 4K Video
  • Digital zoom
  • Optical zoom
  • Dual camera
  • Optical Stabilization (OIS)
  • Autofocus
  • Touch focus
  • Continuous shooting
  • Geotagging
  • Panorama
  • HDR
  • Face detection
  • White balance settings
  • ISO settings
  • Exposure compensation
  • Scene mode
  • Self-timer
  • RAW
  • Digital zoom
  • Digital image stabilization
  • Optical Stabilization (OIS)
  • Autofocus
  • Touch focus
  • Continuous shooting
  • Geotagging
  • Panorama
  • HDR
  • Face detection
  • White balance settings
  • ISO settings
  • Exposure compensation
  • Scene mode
  • Self-timer
  • RAW
  • 4K Video
  • Digital zoom
  • Optical zoom
  • Dual camera
  • Digital image stabilization
  • Optical Stabilization (OIS)
  • Autofocus
  • Touch focus
  • Manual focus
  • Laser AF
  • Continuous shooting
  • Geotagging
  • HDR
  • Face detection
  • White balance settings
  • ISO settings
  • Exposure compensation
  • Scene mode
  • Self-timer
  • 4K Video
  • Digital zoom
  • Optical zoom
  • Dual camera
  • Optical Stabilization (OIS)
  • Autofocus
  • Touch focus
  • Manual focus
  • Continuous shooting
  • Geotagging
  • Panorama
  • HDR
  • Face detection
  • White balance settings
  • ISO settings
  • Exposure compensation
  • Scene mode
  • Self-timer
  • RAW

Selfie
SELF
Camera type

Dedicated

Dedicated

Dedicated

Dedicated
Resolution 7.2 Mpx 16.3 Mpx 8 Mpx 8 Mpx
Sensor Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown
Type -- -- -- --
Aperture ƒ/ 2.2 ƒ/ -- ƒ/ 2.0 ƒ/ 2.0
Pixel size -- -- -- --
Pixel Binning -- -- -- --
Sensor size -- -- -- --
Others
--
--
--
--

DxOMark Score
DxOMark Score
94
Mobile
96
Photo
89
Video
90
Mobile
90
Photo
89
Video
 --
97
Mobile
100
Photo
91
Video

User reviews

Quality of daytime photos
9.1
9.6
9.7
9.4
Quality of nighttime photos
7.3
8.0
9.0
8.8
Quality of selfies
8.1
8.5
8.7
8.5
Does it have a powerful flash?
8.7
9.2
9.2
8.9
Number of reviews
57 reviews
21 reviews
68 reviews
62 reviews
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Connectivity

Network compatibility

5G -- -- -- --
4G LTE
  • B1 (2100)
  • B2 (1900)
  • B3 (1800)
  • B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1)
  • B5 (850)
  • B7 (2600)
  • B8 (900)
  • B12 (700)
  • B13 (700)
  • B17 (700)
  • B18 (800)
  • B19 (800)
  • B20 (800)
  • B25 (1900+)
  • B26 (850)
  • B27 (800)
  • B28b (700)
  • B28a (700)
  • B29 (700)
  • B30 (2300)
  • B34 (TDD 2100)
  • B38 (TDD 2600)
  • B39 (TDD 1900)
  • B40 (TDD 2300)
  • B41 (TDD 2500)
  • B1 (2100)
  • B2 (1900)
  • B3 (1800)
  • B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1)
  • B5 (850)
  • B7 (2600)
  • B8 (900)
  • B12 (700)
  • B13 (700)
  • B17 (700)
  • B20 (800)
  • B28b (700)
  • B28a (700)
  • B38 (TDD 2600)
  • B39 (TDD 1900)
  • B40 (TDD 2300)
  • B41 (TDD 2500)
  • B1 (2100)
  • B2 (1900)
  • B3 (1800)
  • B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1)
  • B5 (850)
  • B6 (800)
  • B7 (2600)
  • B8 (900)
  • B9 (1800)
  • B12 (700)
  • B17 (700)
  • B18 (800)
  • B19 (800)
  • B20 (800)
  • B26 (850)
  • B28b (700)
  • B28a (700)
  • B34 (TDD 2100)
  • B38 (TDD 2600)
  • B39 (TDD 1900)
  • B40 (TDD 2300)
  • B1 (2100)
  • B2 (1900)
  • B3 (1800)
  • B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1)
  • B5 (850)
  • B6 (800)
  • B7 (2600)
  • B8 (900)
  • B9 (1800)
  • B12 (700)
  • B17 (700)
  • B18 (800)
  • B19 (800)
  • B20 (800)
  • B26 (850)
  • B28b (700)
  • B28a (700)
  • B32 (1500)
  • B34 (TDD 2100)
  • B38 (TDD 2600)
  • B39 (TDD 1900)
  • B40 (TDD 2300)
3G
  • B1 (2100)
  • B2 (1900)
  • B4 (1700/2100 AWS A-F)
  • B5 (850)
  • B8 (900)
  • B1 (2100)
  • B2 (1900)
  • B4 (1700/2100 AWS A-F)
  • B5 (850)
  • B8 (900)
  • B1 (2100)
  • B2 (1900)
  • B4 (1700/2100 AWS A-F)
  • B5 (850)
  • B6 (800)
  • B8 (900)
  • B34 (TD 2000)
  • B39 (TD 1900+)
  • B1 (2100)
  • B2 (1900)
  • B4 (1700/2100 AWS A-F)
  • B5 (850)
  • B6 (800)
  • B8 (900)
  • B34 (TD 2000)
  • B39 (TD 1900+)
2G
  • B2 (1900)
  • B3 (1800)
  • B5 (850)
  • B8 (900)
  • B2 (1900)
  • B3 (1800)
  • B5 (850)
  • B8 (900)
  • B2 (1900)
  • B3 (1800)
  • B5 (850)
  • B8 (900)
  • B2 (1900)
  • B3 (1800)
  • B5 (850)
  • B8 (900)

SIM card
Dual SIM Single Sim Dual Sim Dual Standby Dual Sim Dual Standby Dual Sim Dual Standby
Type
  • Nano SIM
  • Nano SIM
  • Nano SIM
  • Nano SIM
  • Nano SIM
  • Nano SIM
  • Nano SIM

Wi-Fi
Wi-Fi
  • 802.11a
  • 802.11b
  • 802.11g
  • 802.11n
  • 802.11n 5GHz
  • 802.11ac
  • 802.11a
  • 802.11b
  • 802.11g
  • 802.11n
  • 802.11n 5GHz
  • 802.11ac
  • 802.11a
  • 802.11b
  • 802.11g
  • 802.11n
  • 802.11n 5GHz
  • 802.11ac
  • 802.11a
  • 802.11b
  • 802.11g
  • 802.11n
  • 802.11n 5GHz
  • 802.11ac
Others
  • Dual band
  • Wi-Fi Hotspot
  • Dual band
  • Wi-Fi Hotspot
  • Wi-Fi Direct
  • Wi-Fi Display
  • Dual band
  • Wi-Fi Hotspot
  • Wi-Fi Direct
  • Dual band
  • Wi-Fi Hotspot
  • Wi-Fi Direct

Bluetooth
Version Bluetooth 5.0 LE Low energy consumption Bluetooth 4.2 LE Low energy consumption Bluetooth 4.2 LE Low energy consumption Bluetooth 4.2 LE Low energy consumption
Others
  • A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution Profile)
  • LE (Low Energy)
  • A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution Profile)
  • EDR (Enhanced Data Rate)
  • LE (Low Energy)
  • A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution Profile)
  • AVRCP (Audio/Visual Remote Control Profile)
  • GAVDP (Generic Audio/Video Distribution Profile)
  • GAP (Generic Access Profile)
  • HFP (Hands-Free Profile)
  • HID (Human Interface Profile)
  • HSP (Headset Profile)
  • LE (Low Energy)
  • MAP (Message Access Profile)
  • SPP (Serial Port Protocol)
  • OPP (Object Push Profile)
  • PBAP/PAB (Phone Book Access Profile)
  • A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution Profile)
  • EDR (Enhanced Data Rate)
  • LE (Low Energy)

Navigation
Navigation
  • GPS
  • A-GPS
  • GLONASS
  • Wi-Fi
  • Cell ID
  • GPS
  • A-GPS
  • GLONASS
  • Beidou
  • GPS
  • A-GPS
  • GLONASS
  • Beidou
  • Galileo
  • GPS
  • A-GPS
  • GLONASS
  • Beidou

USB
USB
  • Charging
  • Mass Storage
  • Proprietary
  • Charging
  • Mass Storage
  • USB On-The-Go (OTG)
  • USB Type C
  • USB Host 3.1
  • Charging
  • Mass Storage
  • USB On-The-Go (OTG)
  • USB Type C
  • USB Host 3.1
  • Charging
  • Mass Storage
  • USB On-The-Go (OTG)
  • USB Type C
  • USB Host 3.1

SAR
European measurement

The European Union sets a limit of 2 W/kg averaged over 10 grams of tissue.

 0.940 W/Kg on head
0.990 W/Kg on body 		0.450 W/Kg on head
0.600 W/Kg on body 		0.990 W/Kg on head
1.290 W/Kg on body 		0.870 W/Kg on head
1.280 W/Kg on body
American measurement

The FCC limit is 1.6 W/kg measured in a volume of 1 gram of tissue

 1.150 W/Kg on head
1.150 W/Kg on body 		0.950 W/Kg on head
0.520 W/Kg on body 		1.050 W/Kg on head
0.620 W/Kg on body 		1.060 W/Kg on head
0.880 W/Kg on body

Others
Others
  • NFC
  • Computer sync
  • OTA sync
  • Tethering.
  • VoLTE
  • NFC
  • Computer sync
  • OTA sync
  • Tethering.
  • DLNA
  • VoLTE
  • NFC
  • Audio Jack
  • Computer sync
  • OTA sync
  • Infrared
  • Tethering.
  • DLNA
  • VoLTE
  • MHL
  • NFC
  • Computer sync
  • OTA sync
  • Infrared
  • Tethering.
  • DLNA
  • VoLTE
  • MHL

User reviews

Does it have good coverage for calls?
9.0
9.4
9.8
9.4
Quality of the GPS
9.1
9.3
9.5
9.3
And the WiFi?
8.9
9.6
9.4
9.6
Number of reviews
57 reviews
21 reviews
68 reviews
62 reviews

Battery

Battery
Capacity
2675 mAh
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3000 mAh
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4000 mAh
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4000 mAh
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Type Li-Ion Li-Polymer Li-Polymer Li-Polymer
Fast charge Yes Yes Yes Yes
Others
  • Wireless charging
  • Non-removable
  • Non-removable
  • Non-removable
  • Non-removable

User reviews

How long does the battery last?
  • 7%
    Less than half day
  • 18%
    Less than a day
  • 40%
    One day
  • 33%
    More than one day
  • 2%
    Two days or more
  • 10%
    Less than half day
  • 24%
    Less than a day
  • 33%
    One day
  • 33%
    More than one day
  • 0%
    Two days or more
  • 0%
    Less than half day
  • 6%
    Less than a day
  • 26%
    One day
  • 56%
    More than one day
  • 12%
    Two days or more
  • 0%
    Less than half day
  • 3%
    Less than a day
  • 21%
    One day
  • 53%
    More than one day
  • 23%
    Two days or more
Number of reviews
57 reviews
21 reviews
68 reviews
62 reviews

Software

Software
Operating System
  • iOS 16
    iOS 16 , 1 year ago
  • Android 7.1.1 Nougat
    Android 7.0 Nougat, 7 years ago
  • Android 10
    Android 10 Q, 4 years ago
  • Android 8.0 Oreo
    Android 8.0 Oreo, 6 years ago
Google Services (official) -- Yes Yes Yes

User reviews

Did it come with preinstalled applications?
  • 11%
    It comes with a clean operating system
  • 87%
    It has preinstalled apps but they don't bother me
  • 2%
    It has preinstalled apps that I can't uninstall
  • 5%
    It comes with a clean operating system
  • 86%
    It has preinstalled apps but they don't bother me
  • 10%
    It has preinstalled apps that I can't uninstall
  • 6%
    It comes with a clean operating system
  • 88%
    It has preinstalled apps but they don't bother me
  • 6%
    It has preinstalled apps that I can't uninstall
  • 7%
    It comes with a clean operating system
  • 87%
    It has preinstalled apps but they don't bother me
  • 7%
    It has preinstalled apps that I can't uninstall
Do you regularly receive updates?
  • 0%
    Never
  • 12%
    Once a year
  • 31%
    Every six months
  • 57%
    Every two months or less
  • 17%
    Never
  • 11%
    Once a year
  • 67%
    Every six months
  • 6%
    Every two months or less
  • 2%
    Never
  • 7%
    Once a year
  • 45%
    Every six months
  • 47%
    Every two months or less
  • 2%
    Never
  • 9%
    Once a year
  • 45%
    Every six months
  • 45%
    Every two months or less
Number of reviews
57 reviews
21 reviews
68 reviews
62 reviews
Prices
From $ 201 --
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